Tuesday, December 8, 2015

Comments about the Current NBA Power Rankings

Andrew Barrera
Stein, you should know better. Spurs players will never get the spotlight. Even when my Spurs win titles, they still don't get the spotlight. lol. It's cool. Us Spurs fans don't give a damn about spotlight or ratings. Spurs don't play for the spotlight, shoes or McDonalds commercials. They play to win titles and set records.
Tank Pearson ·
Every dude on the Spurs are apparently old and can't hang with the young folks of the NBA. They can't even get out of the first round, so why should ANYONE talk about them?
Like · Reply · 9 · Dec 7, 2015 1:38pm
Andrew Barrera
Tim Duncan is the only player in NBA history to start on a championship team in 3 different decades. TIMMY!!!!!!!!
Like · Reply · 28 · Dec 7, 2015 1:40pm
Tank Pearson ·
Andrew Barrera

Explain to me who else had an impressive first 6 years than Duncan. 2 rings. 2 Finals MVPs. 2 League MVPs. First Team defense and All NBA honors in basically every year. Oh, and played with a 33/37 year old Robinson who averaged 16 points in the 99' Finals (Duncan averaged over 11+ more) and barely had 10 points in the 2003 Finals (Duncan had about 14-18 points more).

Duncan should be going for number 7 and passing up Jordan in perfection.
Like · Reply · 11 · Dec 7, 2015 1:48pm
Dave Wight
Tank Pearson you must love NBA TV hardwood classics, gives you a chance to re-live the past when dinasaurs walked the court.
Like · Reply · 6 · Dec 7, 2015 2:29pm
Lindsey Lewis ·
Stunned the Spurs have never won back to back titles. Perhaps the Warriors can do something the storied franchise Spurs weren't able to do
Like · Reply · 4 · Dec 7, 2015 2:30pm
Chu Li ·
Spurs can't win back to back becasue they are old. smile emoticon
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 2:35pm
Andrew Vandenboogard ·
Chu Li they will win it this year and who cares. The west has been loaded for the last 15 years and we have five titles!! Whos done better then the old guys? nobody!!!! We beat a young miami team and sent lebron back to cavs. Sad when everybody says we are so old, yet we keep winning!!
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 2:41pm
Matt Lampron ·
Andrew Barrera Nice one! Man's a beast.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 2:46pm
Kin Tse ·
if u dont give a damn, why are you on here commenting?
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 2:48pm
Andrew Barrera
Kin Tse, i like to come on here and discuss the NBA. And to prove the Spurs haters wrong with facts and stats. Why are you on here commenting?
Like · Reply · 2 · Dec 7, 2015 2:58pm
Juan Vasquez ·
In all fairness, it does look like you care about the spotlight and ratings.
Like · Reply · 5 · Dec 7, 2015 3:11pm
Andrew Barrera
Juan Vasquez, why? Because im on here commenting? This is just another NBA article that fans are commenting on. Just because im on here commenting doesn't mean that i care about spotlight and ratings? Thats very assuming on your part.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 3:19pm
Nelson Phommavong ·
Andrew Barrera You guys are in 2nd place and 2nd in the Power Rankings. What more could you ask for? They have always been an under the radar team, you as a Spurs fan should know that. Then they always make their 2nd half season surge just like always.
Like · Reply · 3 · Dec 7, 2015 3:22pm
Daniel J. Smith
Tuesday will be fun...Pacers are the main team that can just catch fire from 3 like the Warriors and score their way to a win, so we'll see if the Warriors can get past them. Boston will also be a good test, and Milwaukee is an interesting team.

If they somehow get past all 3 of those teams, though, I will no longer have any clue on when they'll lose. Maybe it'll be Christmas Day, maybe not.

As an aside, though, I think the Warriors should win 33 in a row in the same season to tie the Lakers record...I'm not digging the streak coming over multiple seasons, even if it technically qualifies.
LoyalTo MySoil ·
Works at Retired
Lets just sit back and enjoy the ride....immortality here we come.
Like · Reply · 5 · Dec 7, 2015 2:09pm
Jason Edward Mery ·
WHY DON'T THEY PLAY THE SPURS TILL JANUARY???? WHY DOES THE NBA TORTURE US SOOOOO!!!!!?????
Like · Reply · 4 · Dec 7, 2015 2:11pm
Sergei Bryzshkovich ·
Indiana will beat them. Warriors started to look a little drained against the Nets and managed to pull away in the fourth because of their bench. 5th game of a long road trip, third game in four nights against a really good team with the pressure of the streak tells me that this is where they are primed to drop their first one.
Like · Reply · 4 · Dec 7, 2015 2:36pm
Dave Wight
Sergei Bryzshkovich How ,much Warriors basketball do you watch? as a fan, they look revitalized against the Nets in the 3rd and 4th quarter. The starters looked bored. And then tried in the waning minutes of the 3rd.

You think this team feels pressure? do they look stressed? or are they out there dancing having fun.....you're projecting.

Keep hoping...why hate though?
Like · Reply · 3 · Dec 7, 2015 3:04pm
Daniel J. Smith
Sergei Bryzshkovich Could be, my brother thinks so, and I personally predicted a loss somewhere on this road trip and that's the likliest place. I'm surprised the Pacers dropped a game to Utah without Gobert, but this whole thing is about realizing that sooner or later, all teams will lose and you can't pick and choose when and how it will happen.

The Warriors did look tired, but we should note it was a back-to-back against the Nets, and I think the team should realize Indiana should demand their full attention. We'll see!
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:03pm
Daniel J. Smith
Dave Wight He wasn't really hating, though, he's just convinced and he's citing the tough stretch of schedule as a reason rather than saying something like, "Pacers are better!"

We can't really mind those kinds of reasons because at least they are steeped in logic. I would say being convinced is a little much, but it's all semantics.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:05pm
Michael Taplin-McMillan ·
This is until the Warriors beat them by 20....... It's one thing to look at it from the outside looking in ... But its another to actually see them on the floor.... Pacers are still learning how to play small.... The wings wont be able to guard Curry and Klay and the pacers have scorers but they are nothing like GSW. If the Pacers try and run with GSW Curry will be sitting in the 4th.
Like · Reply · 3 · Dec 7, 2015 4:07pm
Daniel Doyle ·
Sergei Bryzshkovich warriors looked drained? They won by 16 points haha. They were on a back to back facing a bad team sorry they let them hang around for a little bit like lebron led teams do on a nightly basis. They're feeling pressure from the streak? What pressure if they lose who cares they'll be 22-1 still and defending champs. The pacers will not beat them because the warriors will take them serious from the tip.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:31pm
Josh Carter
Sergei Bryzshkovich Indiana couldn't get past Portland. Why would you think they could get past GS?
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:50pm
David Harvey
Sergei Bryzshkovich Warriors have had three different starters miss mutiple games this season. Thompson Bogut and Barnes. They will only get better
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:59pm
Christopher Allen Wiggins
Sergei Bryzshkovich I agree 100%. Paul George will light them up.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 5:07pm
Daniel Doyle ·
Christopher Allen Wiggins Like he did to utah and they'll lose to the warriors like they did against the jazz.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 5:11pm
Daniel J. Smith
Christopher Allen Wiggins Maybe...if the Pacers find a way to win I bet George will be a big reason why. However, Warriors have a ton of defenders capable of matching up with him in Draymond, Klay, Iguodala and Livingston. All good to very good defenders, so that might be new for George.

They said road games are like a circus now because Warriors fans are all over (maybe they are bandwaggoners, hard to tell), but also because many are just interested in when the Warriors will lose and to catch the Curry show. But George is an MVP candidate so this game has all the elements.

Go Warriors!
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 5:20pm
Mike Tyler Jr. ·
Sergei Bryzshkovich I tend to agree with you. They looked like they had hit a wall vs the nets... going from 17 up to 5 down in like 10 microseconds... but then Curry and Klay and the others did their thing. I suspect Indiana will beat them, but then again, the pacers barely beat the lakers, by 4, and are actually on a losing streak at the moment. So thay havent been particularly dominating themselves.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 6:40pm
Frankie Garcia ·
Daniel J. Smith hey buddy! what are they 26-0 or 22-0?
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 7:02pm
George Anthony
Sergei Bryzshkovich you have no clue.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 7:16pm
George Anthony
Daniel J. Smith Paul George is in that conversation at a lower tier.
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Matt Durbin ·
Im a pacer fan but dont think they have the depth or gaurd play
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Matt Durbin ·
would love to c it though be a great boost in confidence
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Daniel J. Smith
George Anthony Paul George is an MVP candidate, easily. We don't have to put qualifiers on where he lies...everyone should know Curry is out in front until he slows down.
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Thromone Smith
I'm a Laker fan and even I hope they set a new win-streak record.
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Liu Ling
Daniel J. Smith Sunday game at Nets, half of the audiences cheered for Curry, they are obviously not bandwaggoners.

Go Warriors!
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Daniel J. Smith
Liu Ling Yeah, so, you're pretty much incorrect without any room for doubt. If half an arena is cheering for the Warriors, I guarantee you there are bandwaggoners in there. I know we have a very loyal fan base and we've always been great at attending games, even when the team isn't very good.

But half the arena is like, what, 9,000 people? You can't speak for 9,000 people and tell me you're somehow able to ascertain that all "obviously" aren't bandwaggoners. There are always at least a few bandwagon fans whenever any team gets good.
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Jacob Walerius
Spurs fans, please stop saying "We don't need the attention" or "We'll catch them, we don't need a spotlight". We know, and most of us don't care. We know the Spurs are one of the greatest franchises in sports and every sane fan respects the hell out of them. But what the Warriors are doing right now is absolutely incredible. We have to talk about it. It's not some overplayed article, it's history being made. Stop discrediting them because they have spotlight, do you think they should lose just to get rid of the spotlight? Stop, you're better than that.
Tim Thielke ·
The Spurs are probably the msot talked about franchise in the NBA. And probably more than half of it is about how little recognition they get.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:43pm
Dave Wight
A spurs fan is posting because they want the attention of not needing the attention. A spurs fan saying they do not need the attention is because they know they would not get the attention. No one outside of the Spurs fan base cares about the Spurs and the Ratings show that.

The Sunday Night game on ESPN between the nuggets and Warriors , which was announced two days before they showed got higher ratings than the Grizzlies and Spurs did on TNT....
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:43pm
Tank Pearson ·
Funny.

Kentucky got more media attention than any team in ages and their Final 4 game against Wisconsin was higher than Duke vs. Wisconsin. Guess who won the title?

Good to see the Warriors get some "ratings."

Been 40 years overdue.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 5:20pm
Dave Wight
Tank Pearson I did not know they play best of 7 series in the NCAA march madness tournament.

Spurs have never generated the ratings that the Warriors are right now.....

Seems people appreciate great play and a great team for the first time in two decades.

Sorry the Spurs do not have mass appeal, but still a great team.

If the Spurs win the NBA Finals, and no one watched it, did it still happen? Luckily we won't find out that answer this season.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 5:26pm
Daniel J. Smith
Tank Pearson Yes, because to disprove a point, it's always best to go "but hey, remember that one time..."

Everything's happened once, Tank. Oh, except what you're watching (or not) with the Warriors currently. I think you should see a psychiatrist, because the jealousy of the Warriors and the perceived (read: non-existent) disrespect you think the Spurs are getting has really made you a one-trick pony this season (and late last season).

People talk about the Warriors, you get jealous and throw shade. I wonder if you were doing the same back during the Bulls first title? Were you a Lakers or Pistons fan, telling Bulls fans why it wouldn't happen?

Or, better yet, when the Spurs were on their way to their first title, were you a Bulls fan telling Spurs fans to cool their jets and not be so excited? History happens, Tank, and there is zero you can do about it except be more respectful and not feel like it's your job to play Debbie Downer. Lighten up, have a beer. smile emoticon
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 5:43pm
Richard Whaley ·
1999, 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2014. The SPURS are in the mix every year. Tell GS get them some. JAN 25th can't get here any sooner
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Jssee Cas
Spurs fans are not disgracing them common dude we are stating facts but not at all hating like Warriors fans do.
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Matt Lampron ·
It amazes me, given Curry's unbelievable start to this season while averaging just under 33 points, that Michael Jordan actually averaged 37 for an entire season. No hidden motive here, just an incredible statistic.
Jared Goodman ·
played 40 mpg... curry would crush 37 if he played that much
Like · Reply · 8 · Dec 7, 2015 3:05pm
Matt Lampron ·
Jared Goodman Curry has never even sniffed that average. And that includes his 2012-2013 campaign, where he averaged 38+ minutes/game and averaged just under 23 points/game. Last year he averaged 23 points/game again. It is difficult to average 37 for an entire season. Again, I had no hidden agenda and wasn't being combative...it is just an incredible statistic.
Like · Reply · 2 · Dec 7, 2015 3:23pm
Matt Lampron ·
Oh, and if experience is your next argument, MJ scored 37/game in just his third NBA season, Curry's 38 minutes/23 points came in his fourth (where MJ averaged another 35/game). You got me on a roll. Should I continue with the history lesson?
Like · Reply · 4 · Dec 7, 2015 3:32pm
Matt Lampron ·
Jared Goodman And this year, he is thus far well above his career shooting average of .475 at .532. That will not continue through 82 games.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 3:45pm
Dave Wight
Jordan did it on a very bad bulls team playing 40 minutes a game. Curry is playing 34 minutes on an elite team. Jordan is the GOAT, but I think that puts in perspective what Curry is doing right now. It is not like Curry is only good player on his team whereas Jordan was for awhile.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 3:57pm
Dave Wight
Matt Lampron Curry averaging fewer shots....Curry is averaging a career high at 20, Jordan was averaging 24-27/game for 3 or 4 seasons. Curry is a more efficient scorer.

Curry in 2012-13 was not looking to score, he was trying to become more of the traditional point guard of pass first then shoot. Now because he is such a great shooter, he is cranking it up and the team is imploring him to do it.

You can argue that offensively Curry is actually above Jordan, fewer minutes., fewer shots more dynamic.

MJ is the GOAT, but Curry as many players are saying, is his own thing right now
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:00pm
Matt Lampron ·
Dave Wight I can accept that perspective...it has merit. It was just a real number that is quite impressive. Nothing more than that.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:05pm
Matt Lampron ·
Dave Wight MJ averaged 50% for his career. Above Curry's career average.

Incorrect.

But it really doesn't matter, as we'll both agree. Different players both dominating in different ways in different eras. The whole reason for even bringing up MJ's historic year is because of Stephs stretch of excellence and how it correlates.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:11pm · Edited
Matt Lampron ·
Dave Wight Missed the dynamic part. I'm not too sure about that. Curry is a shooting machine, probably the best I have ever seen. But beyond that? MJ dunked over 7ft centers.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:14pm
Daniel J. Smith
Matt Lampron Your main point is fine, but the counterpoint is also valid. We shouldn't assume Curry would avg 37 or more if he played more minutes, but played 6-7 minutes less per game *is* a factor.

Curry would probably get up another 3-4 shots in that time span, even conservatively, and you'd have to assume he'd get 1-2 of those in and he'd score another 3 or 4 points to very nearly match Jordan.

But how they do things is/was so different it's difficult to compare. I'm happy that Curry is even in that conversation and he's able to impact games almost as much as Jordan, even if he's doing it far differently.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:18pm
Matt Lampron ·
One more and I'm done. 30ppg on 50% for your career as a 6'6 guard who couldn't exactly light it up from the arc is both as dynamic and efficient as you can get.
Like · Reply · 2 · Dec 7, 2015 4:20pm
Matt Lampron ·
Daniel J. Smith That's fine. He did it for a an entire season though. MJ's year is finished...Curry needs to more than maintain. I agree with everything else you said.

Read my original comment and you will see it was not intended to stir a debate.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 4:30pm
Dave Wight
Matt Lampron MJ took the game to heights above the rim that we had never seen before, Curry is taking the game to distance away from the rim that we have never seen before.

Jordan had a higher FG % because he shot much closer to the rim. If you factor in that Curry is shooting his average shot 7-8 feet further back.....it is crazy. Curry is shooting 68% near the rim within 5 feet, that's better than most bigs.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:49pm
Matt Lampron ·
Dave Wight I understand that. It also adds to his point totals. smile emoticon He also isn't driving the ball into guys like Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer, who punish guards in ways that aren't allowed in today's game. Heck, How many ominous centers in todays games have the inside presence that existed in in the 80's and 90's?

Good debate. Best part of sports.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 4:55pm
Matt Lampron ·
I will end by saying Curry is phenominal. Wouldn't want to distract from that, by any means.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 5:01pm
Daniel J. Smith
Matt Lampron Yep, fair enough...and that's why I said the comparison is a really tough one to even try. I was just speaking from a raw statistical standpoint.

Both players have/had it tough in different ways. MJ, it was the physical nature that you mentioned that would be tough on Curry. For Curry, it's that the defenses now will sell out to stop him, meaning traps at the half court line and forcing him to give up the ball, which Jordan didn't have to deal with -- only time Jordan was really doubled was sometimes in the post, he was never doubled on the perimeter.

Main factor is what you said, though...Curry has to build this over several years to make the comparison really valid. He just now took off after last season, so this is all just conjecture. We'll see if defenses adjust.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 5:29pm
Nils Headley
Matt Lampron On how many shots? I'll answer for you. Jordan took 27 a game at 48% FG percentage. Curry is doing it on 20 shots a game and hitting 53%. I get that Jordan didn't have much to help on that team but it's still not close.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 6:21pm · Edited
Arthur Sharif ·
Matt Lampron the 86-87 Bulls also finished with a losing record. A look at League history will reveal many scoring leaders on teams with losing records. Wilt Chamberlin averaged over 50ppg on year. Again not taking anything away from Jordan but he was the show on a bad team, can't compare that to Curry.
Like · Reply · 1 · Dec 7, 2015 6:38pm
Jim Sanders
Nils Headley The manner in which the points were/are obtained is quite different. Jordan was never a 3 point shooter, whereas Curry gets the bulk of his points from 3 land. It's safe to say that if Curry were to play 40 minutes a game and take 27 shots a game, that he could get 37 points. It is also a valid argument that the league is completely different. Jordan got creamed while driving to the basket, Curry doesn't. Jordan was getting handchecked and had a defender on him constantly. Curry doesn't. It would be a lot tougher for Curry to score in that era like he is doing in this era. This would be the opposite for Jordan. If Jordan couldn't get hit like he did back then and there was no hand checking, it's a safe bet that Jordan would have far surpassed those 37 points on 27 shots.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 6:39pm
Mike Tyler Jr. ·
Jordan had to score that much to keep the mob from killing his father over gambling debts. Unfair comparison. grin emoticon
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 6:42pm
Robin Weber ·
Matt Lampron Now you're on to career numbers instead of single season like you initially brought up? No agenda? BS. You're reaching for something and it's boring
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Robin Weber ·
Matt Lampron Curry's shooting percentage is right there with Jordan's best year so don't trip on stats or any other season bs
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Keith Green Sr. ·
I as a Warriors fan since the 70's can tell you I have great respect for the San Antonio Spurs. The Warriors have tried to model their organization after the Spurs. I think the Spurs are the most underappreciated dynasty in the history of American sports but that doesn't mean you still can't be awed and amazed at what the Warriors have done the last year and a half. 105-20? I see it and I can hardly believe it.
Matt Lampron ·
Crazy stuff indeed.
Like · Reply · Dec 7, 2015 3:46pm
Dave Wight
Everyone should have respect for the way the Spurs have done it and for their consistency. Have great admiration for the Spurs and their teams. They have fielded some of the greatest teams of all-time.

As a Warriors fan, I never thought the day would come where the Warriors would be the talk of the NBA for anything other than a historic losing streak, another horrific trade or folding as a franchise.

This is awesome, and I hope it runs for a long time here. Over the last 4 decades the NBA has seen some of the greatest players of all-time, some of the greatest of all-times, and most fan bases have not seen a run like this one the Warriors are having right now 105-20, and now Curry may be getting himself into the basketball hall of fame if he can do this for a few seasons.....Who would have thought that.

We will not know how great this Warriors team or run is for years, but at least to have them in a relevant conversation is amazing.
Like · Reply · 8 · Dec 7, 2015 3:54pm
Kelli Tope Flores ·
And likewise as a Spurs fan, I've watched great basketball long enough to recognize a special franchise when I see one, and I have nothing but respect for what Golden State is accomplishing. Kerr is building a franchise on principles that carry on in his absence, that is such a Pop thing to do. What Curry is doing is other-worldly. I'm not here to say who will beat who when they FINALLY match up in January, but it's going to be some great basketball and I can't wait to watch it.
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